I think suspicious 20 has no idea what he/or she is talking about, and needs to keep the comments to themselves.

I have had mouth sores since I was young. Whenever I get sick my tongue and mouth get very sensitive and I get canker sores. I started drinking Kangen water and the sores disappeared in one night. I will be drinking this water for a long time! Nothing has ever helped like this before.

To gl1200 phil. As regards your overly acidic body. You are in acidosis and if your blood pH drops below 7.35, and your body has no more ability to compensate, then you are dead within a few hours. Your teeth are breaking because over the years they have had calcium leached to keep your blood from dropping below pH 7.35.

Change yourself into an alkaline pH immediately or you can bet that your hips are going next.

gl1200 phil posting #50 is completely backwards.

1. Cancer survives in an acidic environment low pH not high pH. Alkaline is high pH and while we are at it, electrolysis splits water into -OH and positive H.

2. Enagic is the only company to use medical grade platinum and titanium. Which do you think is the best company out there?

Kangen water is amazing it is a small price to pay when it comes to your health. it is water that has a different approach to h2o and your health. Just research it first and try the water for a month or two before you talk . First, does any other company give you free water first before you try it? no. that is a fact. Second, does any other company give you a choice of 8.0 ph/9.0 ph /9.5 ph? nope Third, does any other company give you a 15-year guarantee on the machine? Fourth, do they give you a five-year warranty? Fifth, do any of them have doctors standing behind the product So when it comes to credibility i don't think i will listen to non-credibile advice unless you have the proof. i can try to convince you here with my own research but i think i'd rather let you kill your own selves while i watch you die like the rest of the U.S.A with the highest deaths when it comes to cancer, swine flue, obesity, diabetes, Alzheimer's and dementia and so many other crazy things. And the new healthcare reform that is targeting the prescription drugs to make you their puppets and famous drug addicts. i think i would rather drink Kangen water from Enagic with the best built machine on the planet so far. Patrick Davis, California.

The real rip off is the crappy cheap units -- not Enagic -- that have small plates that get clogged up. I know 2 people personally whose cheap units stoped testing and they couldn't get a refund. Enagic makes the best unit that's why so much effort is spent on trying to discredit the enagic unit rather that talk about their unit.

I am new to this blog and have read previous postings which I will not address at this time. My first concern is to address the initial article, "What is Kangen water?" I am a drinker of Kangen water, but not an Enagic distributor. Prior to becoming a full time drinker of the water, I did extensive research on the concept of ionized/alkalized water as it pertains to good health, and on the distinctions of the various units that produce ionized/alkalized water. As the article states, Kangen is a brand name. It is also a registered trademark for water produced by only an ionizer/alkalizer manufactured by Enagic. The reason that "Kangen" almost always appears on web sites sponsored by representatives of alternative manufacturers is, people are looking for Kangen water. Most people are introduced to ionized/alkalized water by Enagic distributors who are out there spreading the word. After many people learn about the water, some naturally begin to look elsewhere for more information, and frankly for more affordable options, and the internet is a pretty handy place to start. That is where I begin to have a problem with this original article. The text here is substantially less biased against Enagic than other articles I have read, but still is flavored toward the notion that, since Kangen water is ionized/alkalized water, and since other non-Enagic units make ionized/alkalized water, it's all the same. That's like saying that Coca-Cola(TM) is caramel flavored carbonated water and is therefore the same thing as any other "cola" made by any other company. Having established the debatable lack of distinction begin the various waters, the article claims that the difference then, is the price and the marketing method of Enagic. A large portion (50 percent to 60 percent) of any direct-selling manufacturer's selling price consists of expenses for marketing, advertising, and sales. Enagic distributors perform all the marketing, advertising, and sales, plus all customer service after the sale. Enagic allots 57 percent of the price of the unit to the distributors to compensate them for these services. Apparently some of the other companies same substantially on marketing and advertising costs because Enagic distributors are doing the work for them. But that is still not why Enagic units are more expensive. It's popular to denounce MLMs and blame that marketing technique for the price of Enagic units, but the claims are clearly not valid. The real reason the Enagic units are so expensive is because they are the best built using the best materials. Each Enagic unit is hand built from start to finish by a single crafter. All parts used are manufactured by Enagic, never outsourced. The units are built to *never* have to be replaced. Any problems which may occur due to long-term use and normal wear and tear can be solved by part replacement or repair at a fraction of cost of replacing an entire unit. The "engine" of any ionizer is the chamber containing the electrolysis plates. The plates in the Enagic units are manufactured exclusively with medical grade titanium and platinum, both very expensive materials. Enagic's plates are larger than other manufacturer's plates, and are solid. Contrary to popular claims, solid plates present maximum surface area, are least susceptible to heat breakdown, and least likely to clog from buildup. If *any* breakdown occurs in the electrolysis chamber of another manufacturer's unit, the entire chamber must be replaced, since their chambers are sealed. Enagic chambers are *not* sealed so they can be opened and repaired if necessary. Think, "Having to replace the engine in your car because the water pump wears out." You have a choice. You can buy a cheaper unit to make your ionized water. The water will not be as stable, will likely lose its benefit quicker, and will sooner or later cost you more than the Kangen water from an Enagic unit. It may cease to give you *any* health benefit, if it ever does at all. It's up to you. Save your money or save your health. Which is more important?

Thank you Mr Bravo for your thoughtful and informative reply. My tone in my posts was probably a little harsh. The wraps to remove the toxins in our bodies, sounds interesting and something that might be good for me. I had never heard of these before. Again, thank you for your kind rely! Good health, an old hippie seattle

On another note: Regarding the chemical exposure in your career... I work with another company that manufactures an herbal body wrap product. I have heard countless stories of people going through serious detox during these body wraps.

One such instance was a lady that worked in some sort of chemical plant for 20 years or something like that. Some 15-20 years later when she came in contact with the body wrap, her friend who introduced her to it helped her do a wrap session. Apparently this woman's wraps turned bright orange during several sessions, which was the exact color and smell of the chemicals she had worked with for so many years.

I'm sure you already know that our skin being the largest organ of our body acts as a giant sponge.

I've also read similar instances where long time smokers went through several sessions and the towels came out various shades of brown and reeked of cigarette smoke.

Point is, you are correct. We live in a world surrounded by toxins and poisons that our bodies are simply "soaking up" through our daily lives. Pollution, chemicals in food, etc.

The worst part is most people are completely naive or worse, they ignore it.

"OldHippie" What's up!

Well first of all for the record... I stand corrected sir. Not afraid to admit it. My feedback on CO2 was not entirely accurate. In most instances carbonation is relatively harmless in soda. There have been instances reported of negative effects but the jury is still out in my research.

I would concur with your previous findings that it is in fact the phosphoric acid as well as high fructose corn syrup that are two of the most damaging ingredients in soda. I knew this but had regurgitated something I found on CO2 in my previous posts. (note to self: Dumb, don't do again!)

As for my input stating 32/1 water to soda alkalinity, that was based on simple tests conducted by placing 8 ounces of soda in a container and adding 8 ounces of Kangen, 1 measurement at a time until the soda was in a neutralized state (7ph). The ratio varied between 20-32 glasses of Kangen, typically ranging on the high end. The point being to illustrate just how damaging to our body's alkaline state soda really is.

As for the user who commented on getting sick, I too am having a hard time believing it was directly contributed to the water. First thought was "you drank the wrong one." The SD501 makes several "types" of Kangen, which did you drink? There are a few that are too acidic or too alkaline for consumption-- they are intended for cleaning. There are clear warnings not to drink these. If you are still listening here, could you please explain *exactly* what happened?

Hippie... if I missed something in my response that you would like me to respond to please point it out. As you can see, the lack of of links in this discussion would make it relatively silly for me to be here with the intent to "sell." I really am here for the discussion and to learn myself, so I am open to everyone's input and will not hesitate to admit when I'm wrong.

Thank you for the "smart" conversation! ~RB

Having been on this on going discussion for several months my stances have been:

1. It is a proven medical fact cancer thrives in a basic (alkaline-low pH number) system and *cannot* survive in an acidic (high pH-neutral being 7) system.

2. I believe (this means opinion!) that drinking Kangen water or any other "processed" water raising pH levels is good for the human body. My problem is with the machine that makes Kangen water, the price and method of sale, not the Kangen water itself.

3. I do not believe (again-opinion!) that someone could have had damage done to their body from drinking Kangen water for four days (or forty for that matter!) that would result in hospitalization and the damage that is reported below. Again-my opinion. I would have to believe there must have been another factor or reason and the Kangen water was merely a coincidence. I would not be surprised if the MD in this case, was appeasing the patient, many have the attitude that most of their patients haven't a clue and might just agree to shut them up. Again this is *my opinion*.

4. I believe it is of the utmost importance in matters such as these, when we are all laymen, that people state their qualifications or state their resources to keep from giving advice that could be potentially harmful or lethal to others. Having said this:

5. I have been waiting for some kind of response from Mr Bravo, for some of his claims I have refuted!

Health and peace to all! an old hippie seattle

Kangen water is the only water in the world that is not acid water. So if you have anything to say about Kangen water, drink it for a month brfore you say it. Mt father is diabetic, has gout, has blood clots and several other things wronge with him also. He drank the water and stopped drinking it twice because he believed it bothered his body in some way. But now he is drinking it all the time and he went to the doctor for his bloodwork and the doctor said his bloodwork could not be any more perfect. He is 85 years old. You should never say a word about this water unless you have drunk it for a month. It will detox your body, so the guy that got sick needs to go drink some more. I have looked for years for the one health thing that worked and I have found it -- Kangen water. I will never be without it!

Why do they tell you not to drink this Kangen water when you eat? I have been drinking the water since feb and I love it. I have cut out all tea and soft drinks I have so much more energy and feel better. this is good stuff.

I drank kangen water for 4 days, and wound up in the hospital. I was having such severe pains in my lower ribs/ upper stomach that I was doubled over in pain. My esophagus is badly damaged, and I am on 3 meds to try to repair it. I can barely eat, I have lost 10 lbs. in a week. My doctor said the problem with these "fad drinks" is that they are not FDA approved. I am so mad that I have to suffer through this pain, and so much for the "free week" of water someone pushed me to try. I can only imagine what that hospital bill will cost me. I have never had a problem like this before, and now I am very sick because of this water.

After trying no less than 20 times to post the web addresses of the articles I used as references...I have finally decided that it isn't allowed to keep people from advertising etc. I have "chopped" them, but I think people can figure these out. Pubmed-UK Med Assoc

Investigation of mineral waters and soft drinks in relation to dental erosion.

pubmed/11556958

The erosive potential of flavoured sparkling water drinks.

pubmed/17263857

Buffering capacities of soft drinks: the potential influence on dental erosion.

pubmed/17263857

Carbonated water

wiki/Carbonated_water

wiki/Phosphoric_acid

One great piece of "propaganda" I came across was from an Australian beverage producers concern, whitewashing the use of phosphoric acid. It can be easily found on the Internet.

Thank you Mr Bravo, for taking the time to answer my questions about carbonated water and body pH levels.

My research, based on actual scientific experiments and research, which I found online, came up with some of the same results as you with one BIG exception.

Co2 does not have that great of an effect on pH levels in soft drinks and sparkling water and that is NOT the reason why they are so harmful! One study allowed the drinks to sit over night opened, to allow all of the CO2 to dissipate. When pH was measured, the next day, the change was minimal, demonstrating that the CO2 was not the culprit in the low pH levels.

Another study did find that sparkling water did have slightly lower pH levels than the plain mineral water used as a benchmark, but well above that of fruit juices, colas and other soft drinks.

The biggest culprit of acidity in soft drinks is the phosphoric acid used as a flavoring to give the "tart" taste. There are other ingredients that can be substituted for the phosphoric acid, such as citric acid,

but they break down quickly and are not practically free. Phosphoric acid is a waste by-product just like the fluoride we have been poisoned with for years in our drinking water... These substances would have to be discarded, which would have a cost associated with the disposal, if industry hadn't found a "creative" way to get rid of these toxic substances. (Are they still using mercury in the amalgam tooth fillings and as a preservative for vaccines, which some

researchers have blamed for the incredible rise in the cases of autism in children??? Sure hope not!!) All of these substances, have come under fire for their suitability for human consumption.

Doing this little piece of research, really pointed out to me the need to eliminate all of the toxic substances we are exposed to daily, and the need of "special tools" to help our bodies detoxify. My father died in August

2006 with a brain tumor associated with cancer, and my mother is currently having chemotherapy for lymphoma.

I am a painter and have been around toxic substances for 35 years. Long before my parents ever got sick, I had always half jokingly said that all those toxins I've been around for years would eventually kill me. It is less of a joke every day!

PEACE and HEALTH!! an old hippie seattle

Mr Bravo,

Having reread your comments about CO2 and pH levels in soft drinks, here are your statements copied and pasted:

"I have no medical credentials, but I have done a lot of personal research over the last 7 years on the importance of alkalizing the body. CO2 is the primary reason soda is so bad for you. It takes 32 8oz glasses of water to neutralize a single 8oz glass of soda. CO2 is acidic and toxic to the human body, therefore, carbonated drinks, such as sparkling water, are actually unhealthy for our bodies. Any sparkling water that I have tested pH levels on, registers between 3-2.5 pH; neutral being 7. Maintaining an alkaline, 7+ pH level, in our bodies chemistry is critical to avoiding disease. Extensive research has shown that degenerative diseases like cancer thrive in acidic environments and die in alkaline environments. There are many books on the subject. Linus Pauling's research is among the best."

Everything I have read totally concurs with your statements of cancer thriving in an acidic body and unable to live in a basic (alkaline) one.

A little about me... As a high school sophomore, I took chemistry. I was the only sophomore to do so that year. There were two juniors in the class. The balance were seniors, numbering 30 or 32 students. (You can draw your own conclusions...) I also took biology and physics in college, however, I never graduated. I do have some educational background in what I am writing about. The "facts" you have stated above about CO2 are wrong! And to be generous, YOU ARE *misinformed*. Where you came up with:

"CO2 is the primary reason soda is so bad for you. It takes 32 8oz glasses of water to neutralize a single 8oz glass of soda."

I don't know, but I'll let anyone else reading this, to make their own conjecture! My previous post states my sources.

Did I read somewhere that you sold these devices....??

Can you really get these at Wal Mart? Cuz I got mine, for the comparatively expensive $2,500.

I *will* say though, that after about a month, I am drinking a *lot* more water than I normally did. (BTW, I was/am a skeptic with this, and any pyramid type scheme.) So, I'll wait for any improvements. I *think* it's making me feel more lively...

You know, it does make you drink more water (a lot more too, not just a little). If it only does that, it may eventually be worthwhile... though if you can get a similar product at Wal Mart, that's great.

CORRECTION:

In my last post I stated Kangen Water ORP levels as a positive(+) number, when in fact the correct level is a negative(-) ORP number. Negative ORP levels are the desired number you would look for when testing the ORP level of any given beverage. The higher the negative number, the better the oxidation reduction potential will be. Sorry for the confusion.

RE: gl1200phil

I have no medical credentials, but I have done a lot of personal research over the last 7 years on the importance of alkalizing the body. CO2 is the primary reason soda is so bad for you. It takes 32 8oz glasses of water to neutralize a single 8oz glass of soda. CO2 is acidic and toxic to the human body, therefore, carbonated drinks, such as sparkling water, are actually unhealthy for our bodies. Any sparkling water that I have tested pH levels on, registers between 3-2.5 pH; neutral being 7. Maintaining an alkaline, 7+ pH level, in our bodies chemistry is critical to avoiding disease. Extensive research has shown that degenerative diseases like cancer thrive in acidic environments and die in alkaline environments. There are many books on the subject. Linus Pauling's research is among the best.

In addition to higher pH levels of 8.5-9.5, is the high positive ORP level in Kangen water. ORP (Oxidation Reduction Potential). Think of how metals rust as they are exposed to the elements over time; so too our cells begin to breakdown as we age. Kangen water has been measured with up to +500 to +900 ORP levels (depending on the source water) which is thought to be a major factor in the incredible results people are experiencing; essentially providing extra help for the body to heal and repair itself. Aubrey de Grey has provided fascinating research on this subject.

RE: anon33067

The potential for dissolving time released medication too quickly is the main concern. Breaking down an aspirin or vitamin faster would be a good thing. Another factor is that drugs are basically acidic, as such, Kangen water may neutralize a medication to some degree or all together, rendering it useless and countering the desired result from the medication. It is beneficial to drink Kangen water with supplements as it aids in providing a positive alkaline environment that the body's chemistry needs to absorb nutrients properly.

Our body is such a fascinating organism that is incredibly well designed and smart. The basis behind the positive effects that Kangen provides is all about supporting our body's chemistry so it can do its thing the way it was intended to do... heal & repair itself.

One more comment in regards to medications... I have read many statements where people seem to be confused or misinformed as to what is actually stated about Kangen water and medication. *No where* is it stated in "official" company literature that you *cannot* take medications and drink Kangen water, as to imply that Enagic is stating that you cease the intake of your medication. It is simply recommended that you not take your medication "with" Kangen water. It is recommended that you wait at least 30 minutes prior and 30 minutes after, taking your meds with clean drinking water, before resuming the consumption of Kangen water. That's it. Nothing more.

I hope that helps. ~Richard

So the company is saying that you shouldn't take medication with the Kangen water because it can dissolve the medication faster than normal water.

It should be pretty simple to prove or disprove their warning. How about just taking 2 tablets of medication, putting one in regular water and one in the Kangen water? According to their claims, there should be a distinct difference in the time it takes to dissolve.

This seems to be about the only thing that can be tested in regards to the companies claims as to health benefits and warnings.

I've heard the whole ionizing of water speech years ago and it was about making water wetter for cleaning laundry without soap. Turned out to be bunk. This really feels like a spin on that.

But heck, if it dissolves that medication better, well maybe there is something to it.

I have had acid problems most of my life. I have put my basic questions first, and my background after, I doubt many would want to plod thru it, so before I lose too many readers I ask:

(thanks to all for reading and any discussion- peace-old hippie seattle)

Getting back to me, age 54, since I was in my teens I have always drank lots of carbonated water in such forms as sparkling water, seltzer water, club soda,some San Pelligrino and Perrier, lots of Talking Rain (Sourced and bottled locally and an old friend of mine, leases the property that it is sourced from in Preston, WA). I have found on many occasions tap water and bottled water give me indigestion and make me feel bloated. The only time I get this from carbonated water is when I have really bad indigestion and/or acid reflux.

Which brings me to my main question, if anybody *knows* the answer, not a guess, does sparkling water act like this Kangen water?? Don't worry I'll take any answers with a grain of salt, unless of course someone has genuine credentials and is willing to give them, as the fine retired physician did.

Cancer in the family- My father, three years ago died of a brain tumor at age 82, and had prostate cancer for 3(?) years. Now, my mother, at age 83, has lymphoma and is doing chemotherapy. Now, how all of this links together, with the Kangen water, which I just learned of from reading this an hour ago, and being stated as fact-not as a plea for sympathy is after seeing my mother, I got into my truck and on the ride home, I heard a discussion about cancer. I can't tell you who they were or even what station I was listening to, but it was stated that *cancer thrives in an acidic system and will not grow in an alkaline one.* My mother doesn't like to drink water and I try to encourage it, but it's just no use.

Since my early teens, I have had a very acidic system. Some interesting consequences-My clothing, T-shirts and under shorts, after a while start falling apart...I get holes in them and they become brittle and tear easily. I don't know if this is related, but i only had a couple of cavities at around 12-13 yrs of age no more until my 20s. I want to think this acidity kept bacteria, etc low, having this effect...this I surmise-I could be totally wrong. About a year ago, all my teeth started to break down (yes..I didn't see a dentist for years). The first dentist was amazed as all my teeth looked fine on the outside with minimal plaque, and he didn't know why it was happening. I went to another dentist, who did dentures, said that I was absolutely correct in my thinking that the high acidity was the culprit, and asked if I had problems with a dry mouth. I said yes, especially at night. He said this was really bad, when the mouth gets dry the acidity gets even worse. He wants to pull all of my teeth and do full dentures...at $12,000.

Brain Dunning did a *great* review of Kangen and other devices for ionizing water and goes over the health benefits in detail. It's a real eye opener. You can listen to the podcast episode "Kangen Water: Change Your Water, Change Your Life" where he covers it. He also posted the transcript of the episode.

If your skeptical about something, do the research and make your own conclusions. Those of you asking for proof, I'll ask you a question. Prove that you love your loved ones, show us proof of what you feel in your heart. Ohh, I see, you can't prove it, so you must not love them. Forget about the money part for the time being. Go out and research Kangen Water and maybe try it and see for yourself. Stop bashing something you don't know about. Go out and prove that it's bad. Then we'll listen. 'til then keep an open mind...what if?

Hi everyone, my name is Richard Bravo, and I am a new user of the Enagic product and a distributor. I wanted to make that clear so you all know I have nothing to hide. I first saw these machines in action about 2 months ago at a local presentation where Dr. Dave Carpenter, a naturopath from Idaho, presented the data on the science and background of the technology and the recorded cases of increased health, etc.

Ultimately it is up to each person to do their own due diligence and come to your own conclusions. I personally have done extensive research both online and off, including drinking the water for the last month and half and I am convinced.

For one I feel 10x better than I have in the last 4 years. I don't eat an overly healthy diet, I don't workout, up until a couple of weeks ago I drank about 2 sodas a day, and I typically drank about 30-40 oz. of filtered or bottled water a day. The only thing that has changed in my daily routine is to add Kangen water. Coincidentally I am drinking more water now and almost no soda. I haven't really lost more than a few pounds of weight. I've actively studied alternative health for the last 6-8 years and I take whole food supplements. I know my own body and this is working.

The biggest factor for me is that my kids drink more water now and actually ask for it. My 13 year old son hates water and will avoid it at all costs. Over the last 3 weeks he has been taking a thermos full of it to school, on his own accord mind you, which he drinks all of it, drinks it immediately when he gets home and when he's doing his chores. My 4 year old asks for it all the time instead of juice.

One last personal experience concerns my wife. She has had issues with constipation for years, a condition most women are afflicted with. She typically goes about once a day and has tried everything from teas to herbs, etc and typically drinks an average of 120+ oz. of filtered water a day. She has been bouncing off the walls the last few days because she is now going 2-3 times a day. Again, not changing anything in her daily routine other than the "type of water" she is drinking.

As I said initially, as with anything else I encourage people to do their own due diligence and independent research and not rely solely on the "hearsay" of others; be it positive or negative. Ask them to prove it does not, just as you ask for proof that it does work. It's just as easy to tell a story of something working as it is to get on a soap box and make unsubstantiated claims to the contrary. Just because someone yells louder doesn't make them right.

I can only present my personal findings here. But I will say this... Please do not give up on this amazing technology simply because someone online said something stupid or because someone says "the science" doesn't make sense. As with any "alternative" health technology or process, the standard medical community will balk at the ideas being presented. This should be of little consequence in your research when you understand that standardized medicine always balks at alternative health practices. Look at chiropractic arts, reiki, acupuncture, herbal apothecary, qi gong, tai chi, etc. "Traditional" "western" medicine was quick to claim tom foolery and shenanigans in regards to these now widely accepted and greatly beneficial forms of alternative medicine.

There are a slew of medical practitioners that stand behind the technology and have seen results in their own patients including Hiromi Shinya, who pioneered modern colonoscopic techniques and invented the electrosurgical polypectomy snare now common on colonoscopes. In fact, if you really want to find out for yourself, find someone with an Enagic machine in your area that distributes the water and try it for yourself. I believe that is the only way you can truly come to a conclusive answer.

PS: As for the "chemicals" in the Enagic machine, it's simply a saline solution which is used to aid the electrolysis process when making the strong acidic water. The regular Kangen water (8.5-9.5 ph) water is pure ionized water and no chemicals are required to achieve the desired ph levels. Several companies and their agents are out to smear Enagic and misquote the company constantly for their own gains. Again, be careful what you read and take as fact just because *they* say so.

So What is Alkaline Water and Why Make Our Water Alkaline?

Acid wastes (from the lifestyles we lead - not only from food and drink, but also from stress and other pollutants) are dumped into the bloodstream and lymph, and then are transported to the liver and kidneys for the detoxification processing and elimination.

The pH level of our internal fluids affects every living cell in our bodies and the effect that over-acidification can have upon the health of our bodies is immense, with a chronically over acidic pH creating an extremely negative environment which affects all cellular functions from the beatings of the heart to the neural workings of the brain.

In order to hydrate your body optimally, you need to drink water that is alkaline and mineral rich. Alkaline water helps to neutralize acids and remove toxins from the body. Alkaline water also acts as a conductor of electrochemical activity from cell to cell.

Ideally, water should have a pH between 8 and 9, and you should be drinking 3-4 liters of it daily. As you hydrate your body properly, you’ll develop more of a thirst for water.

Some of you sound like you don't know what you're talking about. Do you understand what a ph level in your body is? The ph level in your body can definitely affect illnesses and health levels. Kangen water does not have to be the *only* answer, but it can be helpful to certain people with high acidic levels (because Kangen water is a different ph level than other water, or can be).

Eating healthy and exercising can be the only thing needed for some people, but others might need a little more help. I think, if it's going to help someone in their struggle, why not? Even if it's not the only answer, if it helps someone let them use it and let that be that.

Dsatmhk. There is no such thing as disease? How crazy? You are right..Next!

Because I don't agree with you, you and your cohorts now want to monitor my responses. Prior to that you didn't care what I said. There are plenty of people who know the truth or you wouldn't be trying so hard to convince one person. Thank you for finally giving up.

You don't know what the Lord designed.

You made a statement about Kangen water curing skin disease and you cant back it up so now you give up. So I'm glad you have decided to quit because frankly I'm tired of getting notices that you, or whoever you people are, keep answering my posts. Leave it alone, con someone else. Your machine is no good and you and I both know it. You claimed it cures skin disease, etc, but you have no proof to follow up with.

I give up trying to justify something that I have used, researched and am selling with no problems whatsoever. We all choose what we are willing to put into our bodies. The Lord designed the inside of our bodies to be 75% water - our brains are 90% water, so what better substance to put in there other than water.

Our insides are also supposed to be alkaline, but because of the crappy diets and food without proper nutrients, we are extremely acidic. There is no such thing as disease, only different levels of Acidosis - google it and you will see. I refuse to argue about the validity of Kangen water anymore with someone that is "ignorant" of the research that has been done on Alkaline water. If you don't want to drink it, fine. All I can say is, "Next!"

i have been drinking kangen water for 3 years, and i don't know what i would do without it. it has changed my health, and my energy level. yes it is expensive, and i'm sure there are other ionizers out there for less.. whatever u choose it will be good for u, i personally am fanatic about kangen water and would not use anything else. the MLM part of it can be annoying, but you don't have to be involved in it if u don't want.

*lolol* If you can show me in 45 minutes your water can cure cancer or some kind of skin disease I would buy two. But you cant. You have no way to prove this water cures anything and you certainly can't prove it in 45 minutes. By that I mean, lets see a video of someone with skin disease, they drink the water and 45 minutes later they are cured. That is basically what you are saying.

Thank you mikedn. You are right - you can't knock it until you've tried it, *and* studied the affects of Alkaline water, that has been documented for years. Dr. Otto Warburg won a Nobel Prize for discovering the cause of *cancer* in the 1930's!! We have known for this many years that it is a lack of oxygen in the cells. So why do we keep treating the symptoms, and not go to the cause? Could it be that the prescription industry is a multi-trillion dollar *business*?!! This could change the lives of millions of people, and I for one am going to tell as many as I can.

I recently tried the Kangen Water from my friend Bryan Polee. You should really try it out. You will be simply amazed at what it can do to your body. I'm no doctor, but I do believe that doctors should start thinking about using this device to weed people off their meds.

I have a friend by the name of Bryan Polee who uses the Kangen Water for his son's skin disease and many other ailments in his family. I myself just recently tested the water and it is *simplyu amazing*. I wouldn't knock the water until you actually try it out and sit down for 45 minutes and let someone show you what it can do. I'm only saying this to let you see the wonders that it can do. I have just purchased my machine, and I am one extra person to say *stop drinking bottled water*! It is horrible for you, watch last nights 20/20 special as well.

"1 in every 18,000 here in the U.S." That is because no one believes the hype. You know what just because it happens in japan doesn't mean it's good for the world. I think you are just one of those people who are anon24800 and anon26126, 9931...water is water.

People have been drinking water for many years..polluted or otherwise. You are trying to sell a machine for $2500 and you can probably sell it for $25..but you are trying to scare people with that recording you have on the phone at a number no one can get in touch with you on..because you really cant answer any questions. I took the water to a scientist friend and really he is not impressed..

Why don't you do something here in the United States and let the FDA look at it?...I doubt you would do that because it's fake...get over yourselves..it's just another scam and prey on peoples fears especially with the economy the way it is...sorry still no sale...I'm really bored with this anyway we poured out the water...have no use for it...

The reason that we recommend *not* taking your meds with the Kangen water is because it is highly alkaline and hexagonal shaped. Therefore, it reaches the cellular level more quickly than acidic water.

For those meds that are designed to be time-released, they would not do what they were intended to do.

When I take supplements, I use the 7.0 balanced water at that time; which is also made by this machine.

For me and my family, I want the best product on the market. Enagic machines are used in Japanese hospitals as medical devices. Japanese doctors are not paid until their patients are well; so it is in their best interest to make them well as quickly as possible. These machines are in 1 out of every 5 homes in Japan as opposed to 1 in every 18,000 here in the U.S.

It sounds like you heard about Alkaline water from someone that approached you about a machine? If so, you were probably offered to drink the water for 2 weeks? That is how it is marketed. I don't see any other company marketing their machine this way. We want you to see what the water will do for you and your family. Illness and disease cannot live in an alkaline environment or a body that is alkaline. In order to achieve an alkaline body we must eat alkaline food and drink alkaline water. I am informing anyone I contact about the water of this information. I want to see people get well. I want to see sickness and disease brought to a halt in this country.

If it takes an MLM company to get the word out to our sick nation, then so-be-it! We are killing ourselves with our diet, literally. All we are trying to do is get the word out that things need to change.

There are numerous demos on the internet, showing you the differences between Kangen water and bottled water. It is astounding. I can't believe that I was actually paying money for that wonderful bottled water; not to mention all of the plastic that was going into our landfills because we can't seem to keep up with the recycling effort.

The next most important part of the Kangen water, besides the pH being alkaline is the ORP value. This is the Oxygen Reduction Potential of the water. I will let you research that and see what you find. It is an interesting read.

No one is trying to scam you. We are all free to do our own research and make up our own minds. God Bless you in your endeavors.

dsatmhk, so you drink your regular bottled water with your meds and then drink kangen water..OMG you people are amazing..you will say anything to make a sale.

Ms. Nurse has yet to answer with all her scientific background. In any case. We in the neighborhood have just decided to stick with Aquafina and Dasani...so you can take your stuff somewhere else.

You are just selling a machine that we can get at WalMart doing the same thing for much less money. Of course if $2500 per machine was on the line for my company, I might make up stuff about...ohhhh Pez dispensers and how dangerous they are and how people should buy my "magical" dispensers. You see where I'm going with this..

your use of the word Kangen as a noun is way off...

The reason that you are warned *not* to use the Kangen water to take your meds is because it is a high alkaline water and it reaches the cellular level very quickly. It may cause time-released meds to reach the cells too quickly, therefore defeating their purpose and design. It is only a warning, not a threat.

To the nurse who hasn't said one thing to back up your talk. Who are you? What kind of nurse are you? And if you are so positive put out there what your research came up with. I don't mean using your silly line "As a nurse I've studied the body and as a scientific mind I've done the research"..lolol unless the doctors all come to you for answers (and I doubt it very much..you probably work for kangen and you would say anything to sell it) your words are not a prayerbook and they aren't the gospel. So in your words..*prove it*!!...P.S. *good luck to you too*

hmmmm skeptics. I've done the chemistry and lived the results. Do your own research. As a nurse I've studied the body and as a scientific mind I've done the research. I say prove it wrong. Oh and p.s. good luck

100% pure water is not safe to drink...lololol okay Im really done..no sale here..sorry!!

Last time i checked water breaks down to two parts, which are acidic (H+) and basic (OH-). Join the two you would get H2O. And that's 100% pure water and it's not safe to drink.

Im sure its a scam for a company probably based out of Japan to try to get money from people they think are gullible. The two people who claim to be representing this mess well lets just say they arent from Japan. I wish our government would police some of these scams more closely. I for one will not be patronizing this company or any company that claims they have "magic water" when all they have is water with whatever nasty chemicals they want to put in it.

what are the differences between RO water and Kangen Water?

what a load of cosmic debris..learn some real chemistry and see the flaws...

Testimonials and anecdotes are not reliable scientifically. This reads like a scam. "Cherchez le money." Seek the money-that is the key to this idea. There are many things people can do to improve their health or prevent disease that have no money cost. Proper diet (if type II diabetics would attain and maintains normal body weight, many of them would not require diabetic medications), exercise, avoidance of alcohol in excess and above all not smoking.

I would like to see some peer reviewed research supporting "Kangen Water."

Donald W. Bales, M.D. retired

Which brainless visionary concocted this scheme? Al Gore or Michael Moore???

I tried to post the last comment dont know if it went through. Here is my comment again. Its the word Kangen a "marketing term" meaning "return to origin" in japanese. Basically, Im looking at the bottle now and it says WARNING: Do not take medication with this water. I was told that is because it dissolves time released medication too fast. again....ITS WATER. So you lost weight and your heartburn disappeared. You probably started eating better and that caused your weight loss which in turn took care of your heartburn. Has nothing to do with the water. Japanese government approved? Yea we all wait on everything to be approved by them. Why does Enagic have to add chemicals to water to make it "Kangen" water. From what Im told they cant keep up with the competition. And last..2500 bucks for a machine you can probably get from Walmart? Times are hard and to be preying on people (especially the elderly) is wrong. And that is what this company is doing. At least in my neighborhood they are.

Although Kangen Water might be healthy, i think that some purveyors make hard-to-believe claims about the product. I would wait until there are some scientific studies that proved the results before i believed all of the claims.

That being said, i am absolutely not suggesting that it is UNhealthy. it is almost certainly safe and healthy to use.

I want to know why this company would tell someone do not take medication while drinking this water..its water why cant you take your medication especially those who are older and have diabetes and high blood pressure. What makes your water so wonderful that you dont need your meds. People have not been drinking this water since beginning of time. When you came along they were on meds..some even taking life saving medication. And your bottle has the gall to say stop taking medications with this water..doesnt sound to legit to me. Anyone dare to respond?

I work with a group of doctors that feels safest recommending Kangen water (by Enagic), which comes from a processor certified in Japan as a medical device. If my body is 75% water, I don't want to be processing water with anything but the best.

what other alternatives are there for ionized / kangen water?

Kangen Water is fantastic! I drink it every day. Here's a great new discussion forum for Kangen Water lovers - Kangen Water Review.

Kangen water is amazing. It is top of the line water. I had terrible heartburn before drinking this water. I no longer have heartburn ever. 3 months and counting. I also lost 15 pounds. Have my whole family and friends drinking it.