What is Black Irish?

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The term Black Irish is used in the United States, Great Britain, Australia, and Canada to describe individuals of Irish ancestry who have features which are darker than stereotypical Irish features — blue or green eyes, fair hair, and pale skin. Irish individuals with dark hair and eyes are often referred to as Black Irish and are understood to have Iberian ancestors.

Many people believe that the dark features evident in the Black Irish come from a dramatic event that occurred over 400 years ago. In 1588, over 20 ships carrying members of the Spanish Armada wrecked on the coast of Ireland. Many of the men were killed in the wrecks. The survivors, however, were of great concern to England which was then under the rule of Queen Elizabeth I. The stranded men were put to death by Irish soldiers and, save the handful of men who fled to Scotland, it is unlikely that any of them ever made it past the beaches of Ireland.

Therefore, it is unlikely that members of the Spanish Armada could have made a strong enough genetic contribution to the people of Ireland giving rise to the Black Irish. It is more likely that a group of Spanish soldiers serving under Irish chiefs around the same time stayed in the country long enough to father children. Others believe that the Black Irish are descendants of a people from the Iberian peninsula who migrated to both Ireland and Britain over 2500 years ago. Recent genetic research has supported this claim.

Black Irish comes from social and political biases as well as genetic history. In the 1800s, many Caucasian people believed that the Irish were somehow related to Africans. Africans and individuals of very dark features were held in distaste and considered to be inferior peoples. Therefore, the term Black Irish was born and upheld. In 1862, John Beddoe, an esteemed ethnologist, published Races of Britain in which he described those of Celtic descent as having features similar to those of African descent.

The term Black Scot is also sometimes used to describe a Scottish person with dark features. However, this term is used much less frequently than the term Black Irish. As with many terms relating to race, depending on the descent and sensitivity of the individual to whom you are speaking the term Black Irish can carry a number of different meanings and connotations.

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Posted by: anon3049
black Irish - potato famine of the mid-nineteenth century - black rot. Nothing Iberian about it.

ever heard of "black '47"?

Posted by: anon4445
The Irish potato famine was also a time of many deaths due to a disease known as Black Fever.
Posted by: anon5592
I heard that Black Irish was a derogatory comment for Irish people that had dark hair, pale skin, and usually dark eyes. I also heard that this is what the Irish that have the traditional coloring called them. I think I read somewhere that this was because of Irish people and the Moors integrated. I myself happen to be Black Irish, or so I'm told by my dad and grandmother because they are too. I have dark brown hair, although it used to be black, but I dyed it blond a while ago, so it's proving difficult to get the color completely back. anyway my skin is extremely pale, cause I tend to burn, so sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen. And my eyes are green hazel, which means they are mostly green/gray with some brown, and they change with my mood. My dad isn't pale like me but he has blue eyes and black hair. My mom is too, but she dies her hair. her skin has a beige tint, so she doesn't look pale, and she has brown eyes. My sister shows so much more of our German heritage than our Irish.
Posted by: anon7950
the movie "the secret of roan inish" gives a mythical story behind the black irish..that they came from seals..it's interesting anyway. im irish but i dont look like any of the other members of my family who have light eyes and light hair. my eyes are brown, my hair is jet black and my skin is very pale..people often tell me i look russian but i dont have russian heritage..its all seemingly irish and scottish..im trying to do more research on my ancestry..
Posted by: anon9141
I have 3 Grandparents that where straight off the boat Irish, 1 grandparent that is Miwok Indian.

I have (heavily tattooed) tan skin, brown eyes, reddish brown hair, bright red facial hair. I use the term Black Irish...maybe I should use the term Modern Black Irish :-)

Posted by: anon9448
There are stories of the "Black Irish" being American Indians (or part Indian) back in the 19th century. They tended to avoid the census takers, but when confronted, rather than being shipped off to Indian Territory (Oklahoma, at the time), they claimed to be "Black Irish."

These stories persist in the midwest and some of the Indian communities - my mother's family, too. She claimed to be of "Black Irish" descent on her mother's side (her mother or grandmother may have been part Indian in the Missouri Territory). They did not want to be sent to Oklahoma - thus the deception and the taking of an Irish surname, Rowan.

George

New Jersey

Posted by: anon9498
anon9141 sounds like a mixture similar to the Melungeons. My father, whose parents are both Irish, is black Irish with dark hair, eyes and olive skin. He's often mistaken for Mediterranean descent. Ireland was under the dominion of the Moors before other inhabitants moved the the island. Look up Moor in a law dictionary and you will see inhabitant of Isle of Man which is in vicinity of Ireland and Scotland. Also research the link between the Moors and Spain. The history speaks for itself.
Posted by: anon9998
i'm black irish myself and when talking to my dad he says it does refer to the color of our skin/hair/eyes. unlike stereotypical irish we all have dark skin and dark eyes and hair. my dad said that it is another term for scots, which was somewhat mentioned in the article.
Posted by: gardfam4
My mother is a red haired very pale skin irish, my father is the jet black hair dark eyed irish with medium skin tone..I ended up with black hair and hazel eyes that change with my mood between dark brown to gray to green...I wish more was know about how the 'black irish" came to be. but there is also indian on my dad's side as well.

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