Hi, I for one laughed out loud reading about the alpha males. I found it funny how most males do anything to get the attention of the women whom they consider to be attractive which actually shows a deep rooted insecurity and a fake confidence.Yikes,why do men feel the need to label themselves as alpha, beta,etc,etc as though they were some brand products waiting in the shelves to be marketed. Iam a woman and I do not care if you are an alpha,beta or gama nor will you ever find me trying to get the attention of any males. Never felt the need to dress in order to impress men by showing my body parts, even though I have a beautiful feminine body with long hair, full lips, beautiful eyes and a great voice. I love my voice which is soft, husky and honest as though coming from the very depths of my heart. Men and women have always told me that they find me very beautiful, although I never really take time and put that extra effort to look this way or that. I find myself unlike many women who'd do anything to get a man's attention.I am a true rebel, and a revolutionary individual who cares not a dime to impress anyone. Am my own person and have a mind and heart that is not put together by anybody, any systems or the alpha, sofa males. Also am an emotionally, psychologically, financially independent woman.

But since I was a a young girl all the males I've come upon have fallen head over heels in love and I never understood why cuz I never really dress sexily and stuff. I prefer my man to love me just the way Iam, for what Iam inside, for my intelligence and independent and affectionate person that am. i would never do anything to impress a man,yet I never understood why men kept falling in love. Yes, not in lust,but love. But the nicest part is that they all treat me with respect and care. I really appreciate that. What I find attractive about a male is his intelligence, intelligence not in terms of mere IQ but something more than that, someone who isn't afraid to look deep and inquire into himself and have what it takes to stand alone and with grace, yet comfortable with his masculinity. Men with grace are rare. Thanks for sharing your views and opinions.

Where do you people get this crap? What psychobabble magazine or talk show did you see? You're either an Alpha male or you're not. If you're not you're never going to be one. If you are everyone will know it whether it's in H.S. the workplace or on the bus. It has nothing to do with build, wealth or how many women you bed. Talk about movie fantasies.

it seems to me that there are two types of alpha males: those who are truly confident in themselves and those who are not. one can tell the difference by whether or not the alpha male's behavior comes across as out to prove something. If he is constantly trying to prove something (if you know you're something, you don't continuously have to prove it -- it comes naturally), he probably is not truly an alpha male.

I read a lot of nonsense here about this alpha and beta male theory. The only reason I'm reading through this mess is my lady called me an alpha male today. I had not even thought of such so I got online to get a "feel" for what she meant.

I am a former college football player (I actually played on the field, every game) but never thought of myself as an alpha male - just a guy who got a scholarship and was trying to get an education while doing something I enjoyed. I went on the get an MBA, MSF and CPA(nerdy stuff) but never mentally got into this alpha male/beta male stereotyping stuff.

I own my own two businesses but it is surely not to pick up women. I am confident and carry myself that way because that is who I am and not to impress anyone but my clients.

Bottom line is: I treat clients and customers special and everyone else the way I would want them to treat me. I treat my lady special but I treat all women with respect and consideration because that is how I was taught by my parents, grandparents,aunts, uncles, coaches and all others I look up to and have looked up to in my life.

So, I think it would be a positive thing if all of these people get beyond this stereotyping about alpha, beta or whatever.

Just be confident in yourself, establish goals and objectives and work toward achieving them! However, confidence in oneself comes with setting goals, objectives and working to achieve them. Along the

way, you'll win some, lose a lot of them but the key is to stay on the path of achievement of goals and objectives and just treat people right!

If there is anyone who you feel is such that you can't treat them in a way you would want to be treated - separate yourself from them and keep moving on!

Everything else is just "bunk"!

'Alpha males' from experience only get the girls that the other males don't want. the males girls *actually* want are the ones who entertain these so called alpha males and let them be the big confident dude. when you can say to him, "wow you have an amazing girlfriend there, you did well for yourself," and walk away smiling knowing she will be in your bed tomorrow as soon as he leaves for work! The strongest male position is the high paid professional job where you don't own anything but provide a service. So you don't have to give a flip about anything, reduces ties to anything. girls need a free lad who can afford to go a bit mental sometimes! enjoy.

look lads, you're all caught up about this whole alpha male/beta male carry on! but what it sounds like is you want to attract ladies! i'm a doctor who came from a poor background and have never really taken life too seriously. i think all you need to do is don't go looking for a girl; girls are good at finding you, even when you're out with the lads! also dont show your strong characteristics, instead put the effort into not hiding your weak ones. when girls find out for themselves slowly the strong characteristics they become more and more attracted. So stop judging yourselves about this alpha rubbish. relax, be confident in yourself and don't go showing off! i'm no alpha male yet i get all the ladies.

In my experience, it's not that women love alpha males. It's that what they really like is a 'strong and confident *man*' who is nice by nature but isn't afraid to exude his masculinity. Realising this myself over the years, i have been able to continue being the nice guy that i once was, but now exude qualities of a strong alpha male. The woman i'm seeing now has often said to me that i seem to have an 'edge' about my nice character. And it's this that she loves the most. The fact that i'm a nice guy but not afraid to be dominant and strong as a man. So it's not that you have to be beta or alpha, that's besides the point. What is really the issue is the idea that men have to be subservient and nice in order for women to approve when in fact the opposite is true. Be a *man*. That's all women want :)

If you are an Alpha male, then why are you big shot macho guys? Reading the definitions from the internet, and acting like you're gods gift to male dominance - when you require self actualisation and a place to reassure yourselves that you are the Alpha. Trust me, there will always be someone else more dominant and controlling than you, you just probably haven't met them yet, and when you do, *you* will be the Beta. If you are an alpha male then you also will not need to leave hedonistic self worshipping comments about yourself to others. You will just get on with being an Alpha male. If you are the Alpha, then I am the Omega. I am the end of this discussion.

I spent the last two years with a beta male and loved it because of a bad experience with an alpha that hurt me very deeply. However, after two years being in the relationship with a beta I got bored and left him. I'm back in a relationship with an alpha with qualities the beta did not have. For example, I can feel the passion we have for each other without touching him, I received flowers for no apparent reasons, he makes love to me with apparent pleasure, he is more sexual then sensual and leaves for an entire week end without calling but makes a marvellous come back with a nice dinner in a restaurant. It makes me go crazy when he is independent, but makes me even more attracted to him and makes me feel he has his own life; interests and that I can have fun with my girlfriends a Friday night without receiving a jealous breakdown. Viva them!

I am proud of who i am today. When I was young, i got bullied, i lost my first girl to a punk, soon the next week i had another girl, but i was only 17 years old then. By the time i was 20 years old, i was a force to be reckoned with. no male, nor female, could control me, nor defeat me. i transformed into an alpha male, not by choice, but by nature. i worked out with weights, competed in bodybuilding, and football, as a way of building my confidence. from then on, i feared nothing and no one. Today at 52 years old, i am still an alpha male. people fear me, not just because i am tall, but they feel the authority that encompasses me. i only have to walk into a crowded room, a doctor's office, a mall or any place where there are a lot of males and females and i attract their attention, both male and female. That is the power of an alpha male. you do not want the attention, but you have it, when the room suddenly gets quiet when you walk in, then you know that you are an alpha male, or they think that you just look weird. i must not look weird. i have women asking me for dates, but i will choose who i want to be with, out of my own arrogance.

Want to be a so called alpha male. All you need is confidence, a great sense of humour and charm. All those cocky posers with their gym muscles and ape like posturings are just laughable.

Interesting. Now if you'll excuse me, there's a train I need to run in front of.

I am an alpha male, and to one of the above comments, yes she will stay with the nerd for life due to his status and stability but guess how many times I had sex with her and guess how many times she kissed him and left my dna on his lips. I am an alpha that will soon have his masters in business and I will be unstoppable in today's society. I have a rock solid body and god has blessed me with great looks. people who hate alphas are haters, you wish you could be one. the alpha role is not for everyone to fill -- it's as simple as that. Yes I was bullied at a very young age and lost many girls i liked to these alphas but not once did i hate them. I envied them, I understood why I was being bullied and why i was still a virgin and all the girls i went on dates with were messing around with my best friend (alpha) so I transformed myself at 18 to what I am now.

As for our friend above from the philippines I'm sorry for your health conditions although i too had asthma and conquered it. maybe you can too. If you can't get the body there are other ways of becoming an alpha. big does not mean alpha or sexy. someone mentioned above the way you carry yourself although he sounded very cocky. those are the guys i knock in the washroom where there is no camera as I ask them wtf are they so proud of. a small tiny cocky loudmouthed individual like him is not an alpha male. far from it. again not everyone can carry the role, he is making the best of it. those little creeps that use today's laws to hide behind and come to the club or mall and flaunt their attitude like they are hot get crapped on in more ways than one. maybe i'm too competitive. no, not maybe. i am very competitive. alpha males are feared and most of us are in jail because society wants to protect their little girls and guys. i couldn't knock one guy once because he said he would call the police so i messed around with his girl. and no there aren't that many alphas around. look at all the tv shows from friends, king of queens, everybody loves raymond, two and a half men. all the men are getting nagged and emasculated by their mothers (which i must say is very disgusting having your own mother do that) sisters, ex-wives, maids, mother in-laws, etc. people it's not all your or our faults. there is fluoride in our water which makes us very submissive and impotent as well, our food today has many things in it that are whipping out of testosterone. get serious get real and get to the gym and get that confidence and embrace life.

being an alpha is all in the way you carry yourself. it has nothing to do with build or looks.

i'm 5'7" 130 pounds and i'm very alpha. being an alpha is being a leader of men. in this day and age that doesn't only mean being brawny.

Jesus Christ is the alpha and omega! The beginning and the end of all creation!

I hate alpha males. Their attitudes and behaviors are socially and economically destructive. I did, however, have a lot of fun beating them up in high school, and now I enjoy telling them what to do all day at work. ;) ~Signed: The muscular nerd.

The alpha male in most cases is that fat kid or geek that gets a regular beating on the school playground, that 12 year old that gets rejected by the first girl that he asks out, that useless piece of poo whose teacher tells him he's too stupid to make it through school. that child then grows up with a lack of confidence or he says forget this, I'm as good as everyone else and turns himself into an oxford rhodes scholar with perfect abs.

OMG!! Your comments are so outrageous... By being alpha doesnt only mean being dominant.. Dominance is something that is conveyed through the way they act towards different situation and ofcourse at the way they look at things...Alpha males are positive in nature. They try to look at the brighter side of things.. Dominance doesn't mean getting things done forcibly but more over influencing the people to get the work done... And your idea about Alpha Males being sociopaths are total bull crap if you ask me... Alpha Males are not born alpha .. The things that they go through life make them alpha.. Alpha Males don't hurt people..Jerks do.. and clearly you people have totally confused yourself about these two types.. and people whining about how alpha males suck.. you are getting dominated by some alpha male and you dont have the guts to stand up for yourself. that is what is called being a "Beta." Cheers, Adi

I found this very useful information especially being an attractive female in the workplace. It doesn't matter if you are married or not, the alpha male still wants you and wins!

Well there are all kinds of alpha males. A man can have flawed genes and still be an alpha male. They'll just end up being the bums and losers after high school due to poor decisions, no drive, low intelligence, etc. I happen to be an exceptionally smart and genetically gifted alpha male, although I also have the unique perspective of having been the shy reclusive geek as a kid. From what I can tell most of the negative views of alpha males amongst others stems from specific negative experiences that person has had with lesser alpha males. One should not forget that for every drunken wife beater there's ten good men just living their lives day to day and making a positive impact on others.

To anyone who may read this article:

Forgive me for putting in such a long comment though - please bear with me. I am a 28 year old Filipino male, a local here in the Philippines.

To be honest with you, reading this article about alpha males had opened wounds for me, and has also set me asking about myself, about how I am supposed to stand in this society which seems to idolize men -- or boys -- whom they see as physically ideal to lead this pandemonium we call society.

I cannot really classify myself as an alpla male -- for physically, I am no beefcake. I have a heart disorder and am asthmatic, therefore my physical activities are very much limited (cannot go into sports or any of those male-oriented activities). Due to this I am skinny. Also, since I had not exposed myself to those things that boys would find energetic or interesting ( Due to my physical conditions) I have been bullied, scorned at and shunned away by boys then my age -- now fully grown men, who at this point, have grown ideally to become the things that you call "alpha males" -- young, good looking, strong, and successful in terms of their jobs, love life, etc.

I am no alpha male, nor am I some beta male -- for in a long span of my life, I have been a ghost -- if not a nerd -- physically weak with no experience in most sports, cars or this things that most males especially alpha males, identify themselves with.

But gleaning from experience and with all the men that I see and come across with, it seems that being the top male does not really matter. For as of now, here in my neighborhood, there are some men whom you may classify as alpha males -- physically strong and something that the girls would like to take home with, but in the long span proved to be irresponsible fathers, notorious drunkards, hardened macho criminals (who seem to flaunt their criminal records) bums, and worst of all bullies who like to push weaker people around to the point of beating them up-- weaker men like me.

Somewhat this article about "alpha males" strikes down into those many definitions and avenues of what it truly means to be a man -- a real man in this sense. But to me (and I don't know if you would agree with me) being physically strong or assertive (or being the alpha male in the hot sense of the word) does not really matter right now -- if the guy can prove to be a very responsible and caring father, a dutiful son, an honest worker, or a morally upright leader in the community -- oh yes, and someone who knows how to respect women, bearing in mind that he has a mother or a sister too.

To anyone out there, who may care to read this article and my comments, what do you think? Thank you and more power.

I don't buy any of this alpha\beta stuff. That is reserved for apes and canines. We are humans, much more complex, and we can't be classified like monkeys.

"It should be noted that “nerds” (and here we use the term fondly and affectionately), are becoming increasingly popular. As long-term mates or “boyfriends,” they stereotypically on average tend to be nicer and more respectful toward girls." I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that is frankly not true. Women enjoy the company of "nerds" (again, term used with much respect) as a reliable constant, as a friend; don't expect casual sex or a sexual relationship from being nice. It's not a case of being nice or respectful, or at the other end of that spectrum, to be overwhelmingly dominant over other people and aggravating colleagues and people at large, rather to be respected, to have an aire of dominance achieved through casual (not tense or stressed) interaction with people and to have confidence well from inside.

My suggestions come from little/developing personal experience, but they are however founded on collaboratively agreeable information. Alphaness is merely a description of confidence and although (like anything I suppose) looks, muscularity or wealth/power don't hurt, the keystone is confidence. Unfortunately (perhaps from the perspective of women) the beauty (perhaps from the perspective of men) of Alpha traits is that they are supposed to be subtle. If woman are detecting a strong dominance, because men are hitting on women hard, then clearly sex/relationship will be out of the question as per anon23087's experience. The overpowering tactic is a deterrent and that is a key mistake of the Beta not the Alpha.

Take for example the previously mentioned example about President Obama. "Good communication skills, sensitivity towards others and downplays his strengths in order to showcase the strengths of others", these are not coincidences. Question this, if these subtle tactics were not utilized, could he have instilled a sense of leadership in the American community, leading to an overwhelming majority in his favour. This, contrary to anon18661's view is precisely the idea being the true Alpha male, because all of a sudden the "nice guy" the attentive, intelligent, understanding candidate is in control of the modern worlds largest superpower. His leadership/empowerment happened, but without anyone being acutely aware of why it was you were compelled to vote for him. Alpha.

To conclude the goal of any beta or otherwise is to feed internally a sense of self worth and confidence. Success with women and indeed with everyone will stem from a personal sense of empowerment and certainly not one that always needs to be proven be frequently throwing your power or best qualities around in a really obvious or showy way. After all, women are very subtle, emotionally invested and sensitive creatures, they will (duh) pick up on obvious advances. It's what makes them desirable and worth the care in the first place.

You can be an alpha without being a narcissist. You ask about other's feelings, then *you* make a decision.

Beta males invent the tools to screw up the planet and alpha males use them (to further their own ends).

Being indifferent and having a willingness to emote represents alpha behavior. You don't have to be good looking to exude confidence and be attractive to others.

Alpha male as described here may be a regional American thing. Some subcultures in the US and others outside find the stereotypical US alpha male dubious mating material. Nice to look at, but not so cool when his alpha persona decides after 10 years of marriage it's time to leave for a younger woman. I'd rather have beta fidelity than alpha cocksureness.

The Alpha Male term is commonly used on the hit TV series Survivor (17 seasons). It's applicable to the muscular, stronger males who may dominate physical orientated challenges. They usually don't get voted off in the beginning (need them for team challenges) but they get voted off in the middle of the show (so no-one faces them at the end). The personalities all vary: some are quiet, low key while others are very abrasive, confrontational. Regardless, these guys stick out in the crowd based on their nice physical features.

I can't stand Alpha Males, I encounter them at work, and as a Beta Female, they always try to dominate me. When I refuse to be their subservient toy they try to break me. I'm a small, shy pacificist, and yet they take pleasure in an easy kill! Is it just me, or are there more of them around than ever? Most Alpha Males I've met seem to share many traits with Narcissists.

As humans, we share similarities to other animals, and thus can reflect social behaviors, such as being an alpha male. The Alpha male, where it is present in non-human animal groups, is a being that has characteristics of "leading the pack" in their evolution. Wolves do it because physical prowess and strength, amongst other things, shows that the species will essentially continue to live and succeed. Alpha females support this idea as well. In human animals, female and male roles can both lead to this succession. Alpha roles should be defined in humans as leaders that promote communal succession(thrive, grow and prosper) that harmonize environmentally with our ecology. Managers are not leaders. Corporations are not leaders. Dominators are not leaders. I suppose this might suggest that these leaders would be a yin\yang balance of beta and alpha for humans.

The nerd in the classroom is probably your boss today. If you think your "alpha male" looks and demeanor can steal his/her spouse away (beyond sex encounters), good luck. That spouse will want to keep position in life, first. The view is different from the head table than sitting in the crowd.

Based on the definitions of alpha and beta males above, it seems that John McCain is the alpha male, who's contentious, bullying characteristics in the workplace are not helpful, whereas Barack Obama is the beta male: good communication skills, sensitivity towards others and downplays his strengths in order to showcase the strengths of others. When viewed in this way, it is easy to choose the right person to lead us forward into the 21st century.

That part about the alpha male having higher socioeconomic status (good job, etc...) is utter crap. An alpha male might be jobless and just coming out of the mental institute, he will still do a great alpha male. It's all about confidence when treating with other people.

a sociopath is one who lacks regard for others. alpha doesn't mean they don't care -- it means they dominate.

What is the difference between an Alpha Male and a Sociopath?

ladies, watch out for those alpha males! be prepared to take second seat to them...i bet they're prone to being more controlling and critical if you don't live up to their "alpha" expectations!