They (Rafizi or Rawafiz)as they are called also, say very, very bad things about our Mother Ayesha, the Aisha, the beloved wife of our beloved Prophet (S), the Ayesha that Allah has declared her chastity in Quran in Surat Noor. Now, if a person thinks that Abu Baker, Omar and other Sahaba became Murtads, non-believer and are not people of paradise, which Rawafiz do, such a person is rejecting word of Allah who says in Surat Fatiha, I am pleased with those who did Bai'a with you under the tree. This is a translation of the Aya in my not so good english. Check it for yourself.

And Allah declares in other Eyes too that He is pleased with Sahaba, and Abu Baker, Omar, Osman are among them. so such a person is not a muslim anymore. And I read some posts that says Imams are chosen by Allah, but this claim is pure fabrication and has no Quranic or Hadith basis. And I know that some Shia Mullah recite the Quran and translate it wrong to people.

Rawafiz also deny that Prophet (S) had four daughters. Shias say he had one daughter, Fatima (R) while the Quran says, in a surah regarding hijab. "O Mohammad tell your wives and daughters and Nesta (wife/daughter) of believers to..." the word daughter in this area is plural and yet they deny it. I have a lot of information about their system of belief that is beyond the scope of this writing to explain.

So to make it short, if a shia believes that the sahaba became non believers, remember this is not just a difference of opinion about who was supposed to become leader after Prophet (S), tjem such person is not a muslim and a Muslim girl should not marry him. This is what I have heard from scholars. Thanks.

I believe that shia islam is the right path. There is no god except allah and the prophet is the last messenger and imam ali is a khalifa declared by god and announced by prophet.

As per my knowledge, all the ahle baith are shias. The Prophet, bibi fatima, imam ali-imam hasan, imam hussain and all other prophets also were shias. There was no sunnis in this world.

After the death of the prophet, people fought for leadership and the three laanathees were captured the khilafat by hazrat ali. Those are Umar, Abubakar and Usman. These are the three lea nantes who made islam to divide in two groups.

The only difference is that after the Prophet the sunnis believe that a handful of people can choose their own leaders, but the shia believe only Allah can choose leaders, caliphs/imams after the Prophet.

Just for the forum's information, all sunni scholars over history have said that the shia imams were the most knowledgeable people of their time, e.g., both Imam Abu Hanifah and Imam Malik said they have never seen anyone more knowledgeable than Imam Jafar Sadiq.

Did you know that the world "Imam" appears twelve times in the Koran? The Imams are believed to be infallible by the Shia in terms of character. They are divinely guided, however they are still human. They are not worshiped as gods. For further information on the Imams, look up their sayings and read about their lives. They're like a line of ultimate zen masters. When you examine the history and the ways that they lived their lives, you will see portraits of what it truly means to be human.

The Shia believe that the Quran has within its folds complete knowledge, and it is the truth. They also believe that a Muslim should live their life with the Prophet Muhammed as their example and role model. The problem is that, after the death of the prophet, there was a power struggle and many of his sayings and stories about him were destroyed (this is in both Sunni and Shia books). It was even strictly forbidden by the new caliphs to talk about the prophet's sayings and stories attributed to him. Much later, the sayings of the prophet were compiled and often manufactured by the Sunni-run state. (Of course manufacturing of sayings, or "hadiths" goes on on both sides). Therefore, there is a lot of uncertainty concerning what the prophet really said about certain things (although, again, the Quran is the seat of knowledge). This is where the Imams come in.

It is said that (essentially) the "Quran is the word of God, and that the Imams are the gateway." The Imams, who are, of course, the family of the prophet, were in the business of spreading only truth to the masses in an effort to maintain balance and light in the religion of Islam that had been hijacked by these caliphs. In this way, the Quran would be interpreted correctly and the art of living as an good and honest member of society would become clear.

The Shia also believe that the caliphate was stolen from the Imams after the prophet's death by several of his companions. Specifically, the caliphate was stolen from Imam Ali, a man who is praised by many figures throughout history and in modern times across religious and cultural boundaries, including non-Muslim figures such as Nelson Mandela, Thomas Carlyle (Scottish historian) and John Carlos (Bolivian writer). If you are doing research to determine for yourself the correct path of Islam, look deeply at both sides of the coin, and watch out for fallacies in the reasoning of both sides. There is a lot of name-calling and a lot of misinformed lying. But study the texts and don't settle until you know for sure. Good luck on your journey.

Secondly, I would like to also inform you that this shia or shias in general where everyone looks at them from an evil eye are just as muslim as every one of you are. They are followers of Allah. They believe in one god Allah and follow the Quran. We do not believe that the ten saparas were eaten by a goat. We do have difference in prayer yet again pray to the same God.

Secondly, orginally we all started from one sect and only because of the fight for power and land were divided. Everyone look at your history before you point fingers. Moharram is done for sympathy of our prophet Mohammed which I believe is the prophet for all muslims. Secondly we additionally do add prophet P.B. H and his followers.

I give a standing ovation for those muslims who are so in love with islam to feel the pain that our prophet and his followers felt. It's better than people saying jihad is a holy war and bombing around. So in my opinion, I believe just watching and guessing about these things won't do you or anyone any good. Ask Shias around you before you start saying false accusations. Learn the shia rules and learn whether you are right in accusing shias negatively.

Secondly, If i were you I would go to an Imam Bargah and sit and see whether you will be comfortable in that nature. If you are ok with what he does with his religious belief, read about it and see if you are open to agreeing with him or at least a bit with him.

We cannot decide for you. This is all in your hands, but it is pointless to take advice here from people who may not have as much knowledge as you need to form an opinion, so I would do my personal research on Shia Islam and talk to him and allow him to explain his knowledge. May Allah give you two many blessings.

shia has their own different kalimah. they believe that they were 40 paras of quran (naudhobilla) and goat ate 10 paras of it.

in muharram they hurt themselves, wear black clothes and woman don't do any makeup, don't make new clothes, don't wear anything which makes then look beautiful. as muslims, we all go to masjid, but she goes to a place which is called imam bargah.

this shows a lot of differences between shia and sunni.

at first i didn't know much but now that i found out everything it's hard and especially if you have a child involved, because i have a son and i want him to be sunni but my husband wants him to be shia like him and do what they do, but i won't allow my child to knife himself or beat his chest.

Be careful, and think about it hard before you decide to marry a shia if you're a sunni.

Conclusion: Shias are not Muslims.

No further proof or discussion need. Cheers.

There is some information on the web which is against sufism, but at the same time the info about sufism seems to be like that this is the only religion or sect which is true. Why this is so? Why is there loads of confusion between both the sects? I guess this issue will be unresolved until the day of judgment, because if we go through about both the sects, it's really difficult to differentiate between them.

i have found shia people very informative about Islam. In fact, sunnis are not as aware as Shias are. Shias state every fact with logical information.

It is really difficult to differentiate between sunni and shia.

i have studied the middle east and my teacher discussed about iran and iraq. They used to say that these differences are just a propaganda but political parties. It's just a sect and shias are syed are like sunnis. Differences can't make them not muslims. In fact, my teacher is sunni and he an the expert on the middle east.

how one can choose that what sect is right what sect is wrong? Every sect has their own beliefs. Both sects thank Allah for whatever Allah has given to them. Allah is so merciful, so how can He punish those people who give thanks to Him for every thing He has given or believe Him that Allah is the only God?

I just want to know why is this separation of sect between shia and sunni considered to be a problem when both of them are muslims. why are people of both groups considering each other as a people of another religion even though both are prophet muhammad P.B.U.H ummah

Since most of the people who doesn't do studies on quran and Islam most of them doesn't know what is the concept of Islam.

The main belief of true Muslim should be "Laa Ilaaha Illallah Muhammadur Rasulullah" There is no other God But Allah and Muhammad SAW (PBUH) is the messenger of Allah. People who reject this are not considered as Muslims whether they are Shia or Sunni.

Question: Do the Shia accept Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) as the messenger of Allah? Find the answer by yourselves so you will find what quran says about those who are non believers.

Ok, Let's come to the question Brother. Yes of course you can marry a Shia girl but she should accept the kalima which I mentioned earlier: "There is no other God but Allah and Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) is his messenger. Hope I answered your question.

Apart from that I would like to ask our Shia brothers and and sisters a simple question: if Hazrat Ali RA (PBUH) is a follower and main sahaba of beloved Prophet Muhammad SAW (PBUH) why can't you believe?

Walaikum Salaam Warahmatullahi Wabara Kaauhuhu.

As for the sunni/shi'a marriage question, I'd suggest not to do it because I have firsthand experience of what it is like to grow up in a divided household. The decision is ultimately yours, though.

It is because of their virtue, their "Taqwa", that God selected them to be the leaders of believers.

Yet those who opposed Muhammad and disliked his family, when Ali demanded caliphate from them, they argued that Ali wanted to declare Imamate, after Muhammad's prophethood, to be in the Banu Hashim, Muhammad's tribe. So according to them, the immamate and prophethood must be in different tribes, which is illogical, as its for God to chose his Caliphs on earth, which is evident from verse of Quran, that God made Adam His caliph in the earth, so He would make all the caliphs, and it cant be decided according to tribe or family. They might all be from one family, or from different families. In the case of 12 Imams, God chose them from one family, to test the unbelievers, who were exposed immediately after Muhammad's passing away.

The decline of Sunni caliphate eventually, its corruption and consumption, until its ultimate abolishment after WWI, is proof of the weakness of the system by which anyone, regardless of capability or virtue, could be made into a caliph, even if he goes against the will of God.

Shiites believe that their imams are infallible, because they are from the chosen family of Mohammad. So in order to be a leader, you must be of Mohammad's descent. A tenure for life.

Sunnis believe that only Mohammad was infallible, because he was not allowed to go wrong by God, which is evident in many verses and even surahs in Koran where God calls out on Mohammad directly for his mistakes (i.e. the surah 80, Abasa "He Frowned", and the chapter 93, Ad-Dhuha, etc.), and none after him was, is and will ever be infallible, because God will not inspire anyone else after Mohammad in that manner anymore. So everyone is the same, from whichever family they may be descending from.

So according to Sunni, whoever the public believes is up to doing the job, is the leader. A tenure for as long as you serve people right. The moment you fail, you are replaced with someone who can keep the flag of justice up.

-Thank You